Democratic Mischief in Michigan?
It rarely works but the Daily Kos is urging Democrats to cross over on January 15th primary and vote for Mitt Romney Michigan is a walk-in registration state. The democratic candidates are boycotting Michigan to honor the DNC calendar rules. Cross over voting to mess with the opposition is talked about every cycle in situations like this and it seldom has the slightest impact. The goal here is to help Mitt Romney and thereby hurt John McCain and Mike Huckabee.
To read the article and the email that Markos wants democrats to send out go to: The Daily Kos
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LOL….funny, I thought the antics were in SC last night…shame on you FOXNEWS and you Republican candidates. YOur treatment of Ron Paul was dispecable and disgraceful. When did Sean Hannity become the voice of America. Fox News can not even post their TEXT Poll, because Sean did not like the results….SO WHERE ARE THE REAL ANTICS being played at…RIGHT HERE AT FOX
MORE FROM THE “LOST” “STATE OF FRANKLIN!”
SO: Think about the Boston “TEA PARTY!”
Was it “NOT” about “TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION?”
SO: We Get ALL the REPRESENTATIVES FROM MASS.
Who by the way, show us their …Willingness mess to TAX the rest of the Country … ?
I ALSO REMEMBER MY “OATH” OF SERVICE FROM WHEN I JOINED, NOT DRAFTED IN 1968!
IT WAS TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION FROM “ALL” ENEMIES” – FOREIGN and DOMESTIC!
WILL WE GET A CANDIDATE THAT WILL REMEMBER THEIR OATH OF OFFICE?
SO FAR IT’S BEEN THE KAT’Z AND JAMMER KIDS, JOE PALOOKA, BOZO AND HIS BIG TOP
FRIENDS ALONG WITH ALLY OOP!
ON THE OTHER SIDE, GENERAL BULL MOOSE AND THE “IF IT’S GOOD FOR GENERAL BULLMOOSE,
IT’S GOOD FOR THE USA”. DOGPATCH, LIL ABNER’S AND DAISY MEA’S! WHO CAN’T KEEP THEIR
DRAWER’S ON: SOMEONE TELL THE BRITINY SPEARS AND PARIS AND “THE HILTOON” LET’S
MELTDOWN ON, TV CROWD TO GET SOME SYMPATHY, IS SIMPLY PATHETIC!
BY MA AND PA KETTLE STANDARDS!!
THE PUBLIC MEANING YOU AND “ I “ ARE SCREAMING FOR “POGO” TO DRAIN THE SWAMP!
WE HAS MEET THE “ANY-MEEEEE AND IT IS U.S.! GIVE ME MY OLD GLORY AND OLD IRONSIDE’S
NAME-FOR GOSH SAKES!
STOP WITH THE LOONY-TOON’S AND GET BACK TO BASIC’S –
THE GOOD OLD CONSTITUTION!
HELP! HELP! THEY ARE TYING ME TO THE RAILROAD TRACK’S SCREAMED PU-LOSIE’S AND THE TEAM!
AND THEN, ………”ALONG CAME”………………………….”FRED!”
TAKE THE BALL, MR THOMPSON, BEST MAN AND ALL “THAT CHAP!”
I THINK WE ARE “DONDE!” WITH, THE “CHAPA-QUITE-IT CROWD!” (SIC) EM ROVER!
THEIR DAY IS (OVER!) “RED” ROVER, “RED, ROVER”, SEND…… ….FRED! OVER!
(Meanwhile; (Back) at the ranch, “We, are all waiting!” For : “Any-Mouse!” to come and “SAVE THE DAY!”)
OR MAYBE WE CAN DISPENSE WITH THE “PUNCH AND JUDY!’ SHOW (OR)
YOU: BE THE “JUDGE!” WELL I THINK; WE ALL KNOW THAT PUCH LINE!
SO: FROM BIRD’S EYE VIEW, FROM THE HILLS OF TN. THE “GREEN MOUNTAIN BOY’S”
“ARE, KEEPING THEIR EYE OUT FOR YOU!” GO, FRED! …….”DARE!” ….. TO: DREAM?
(“OF THE “AMERICA” WE ONCE HAD, AND CAN HAVE AGAIN!”) IF WE ONLY: WAKE UP!
PULL NO PUNCHES!, THIS IS A KNOCK-DOWN DRAG-OUT FIGHT!
“ FOR THE SAKE AND SAFETY OF THE NATION!” OUR “LIBERTY’S” AND “AMERICAN”
WAY OF LIFE! NOT THE PC SECULAR PROGRESSIVE PROPAGANDA AGENDA’S!
REMEMBER IT’S “PANT’S, THEN: CHOSE! WHO’S! ( … — …) READ AS: S.O.S!
GO, FRED!………………………………………………………………..GO!
Why is the Democratic party working for Romney? Wait, why am I not surprised…
Are there any conservatives in this election?
Carl,
Your journalistic integrity is compromised. You showed your true colors last night at the SC debate. Nice softballs to your candidate Huckabee. Even when he embarrassed you and your face got red when he said that your facts weren’t accurate you show up this morning with continued allegience to Huckabee. You must have bought into the ideas that church and state are not separate because the real scandal of Michigan is that the evangelical community is being compromised by Huckabee’s campaign. The separation of church and state is CRITICAL to the fundamental freedoms of this country. I am a devout Christian and it pains me to see fellow evangelicals following blindly behind short-sided ministers bullied into voting for Huckabee. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. If he is elected President (which he won’t be because the Dems will tear him apart) he would do more to denegrate the good name of Christian than any president we have had in recent history because he is all show and no substance. His record is clear. I am tired of him playing the holier-than-thou act. We need a true leader who doesn’t hide behind cloaking rhetoric. You think you are helping America by your subtle efforts to get him elected (or to help him get the republican nomination so that he will get defeated by the dems) but it will backfire on all of us. And you will share a lot the blame.
We have come to expect stunts like this fro mthe Democrats.
Nothing new here, only this may come back to bite them if Romney gets the nomination and beats them in November.
The bigger issue is the dirty politics of the democratic party. What exactly is it about the compressed schedule that bothers Dean? Pure and simple, if Hillary had gotten a big bounce out of Iowa, he would have been less concerned.
I think the democratic party gets a black eye from this, and deservedly so.
Although crossing over is apparantly legal,its a little underhanded,when you’re being lobbied to do so…But then again,things have a way of proving themselves out,Don’t they?Wasn’t it just last week in a poll on Fox,that Romney earned the title of running dirtiest campaign…Had to mention that,because I’ve been reminded,in a reference to one of my other comments that” you’ll know them by their fruits,and their fruits bear their spirit”…Just hope everybody is doing their homework,and can see thru all the half truths,that comes out of his camp….He hasn’t lived in this state for 30-40 yrs,but is calling it his home state ,you’d think though that He wouldn’t have to have crossovers,in order to win…As He whines his way thru this campaign I hope people remember the crossove thing for future use it just might be the thing to keep him from whining about everybody else.Last night He was the first to do any attacking,by singling out McCain.
Maybe next time we can ask somthing of Him that would require him to be specific about his religion….It happens to Huckabee quite a bit,and whats good for the Goose,is good for the Gander
If your not ure what to ask contact me, I have a few questions,I’d like to see asked
Mitt will probably win Michigan either way. He’ll stay in the race no matter where he places. He’s got the ideas, the brilliant intelligence, the experience and the money to see it through all the way!
Carl Huckabee………….I mean Cameron
In posting the KOS to somehow scare Republicans to vote against Romney (or somehow making it legit DEMs support Mitt)…………..
Why don’t you mentioned the Detroit state Democrat Lamar Lemons call calling for cross-over trickery and having DEMS vote for Huckabee?? He states they did trickery in 2000 for McCain, so why not Huckabee now??
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008801100460
Thanks for the WARNING on Romney though…………………………..
Go Mitt!! (fresh with his Grand Rapids press endorsement, Oakland County Press endorsement and today’s endorsement by top organizer for the ’stay at home school’…….I thought Pundits said MI ’stay homers’ were going with Huck because he got them in Iowa. ………Maybe because this is not IOWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is broadcasting this another attempt by Fox to minimize and defeat Romney? Or just another attempt to boost McCain – together with your article about Giuliani running out of money?
Carl, how about reporting on ” Democrats for Huckabee”, led by LaMar Lemmons, III, D-Detroit. He did the same for John McCain against George W Bush in 2000. So much for integrity in the Democrat party.
Mom,
Being a devout Chistian(which I’m not questioning),shouldn’t you be putting God first on your priority list Seperation of Church and state is a man made law,the country was founded on Christian principles,because of reilgious oppression,and the founders found time for God,before anything else….I’m sure your Bible reads lke most and says That If you’re ashamed of me before man I’ll be ashamed of you before the Father….If you don’t like Hukabee don’t vote for Him,but don’t pass judgement if you can’t back up those statements from a Chrstian perspective,with refrences and proof…..Referring to Jesus,it also says that the Government will rest upon His shoulders….just something to thin about
I did some research last night and may have discovered the reason why Sean Hannity was such a vocal opponent to Ron Paul’s South Carolina Debate win. It’s appalling and in my opinion, borders on breaking the law.
On August 9, 2007, in Cincinnati, Hannity hosted a $250.00 per person fundraiser for 2008 presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani as reported by nydailynews.com. Evidently, no one has really reported on this subject. It’s all been hush, hush.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2007/08/19/2007-08-19_giulianis_foxy_pal_cash_flap.html
Your WRONG CARL!
How’s this for a scenario:
The Dems feel that short of his views on Iraq, McCain would be easier to work with (i.e., close relationships with, Lieberman, Kennedy, etc) and THEY FEEL he would be the best Republican nominee.
The only way he (McCain) can be sure of a victory in MI is if the Liberal/moderate Republicans AND INDEPENDENTS get out to vote for him. So what is going on here is kind of a FLIM FLAM/Smoke & Mirrors. Lets create a BOGUS CONSPERACY. By doing this, They expect that MI independents (liberals, and CLOSET REPUBLICANS) that were thinking of voting for McCain will NOW MAKE SURE THEY GET OUT TO VOTE NOW FOR McCAIN. Kind-a-like, Lets RALLY THE TROOPS (independents) because, you see, THEY REALLY DON’T WANT ROMNEY TO WIN! This (THEY HOPE) will get out MORE INDEPENDENTS for McCain. NICE TRY DEMS!!!
They did the same thing for McCain in 2000 and IT WORKED. He beat Bush and won MI. Fortunatly, McCAIN Lost in SC.
ROMNEY WILL WIN in MI On HIS OWN MERITS. First in MI, Then First in NV, Then First in Maine. ALL BEFORE FEB 5!
PS: Follow this link to an online MI Poll that you might find interesting:
http://blog.mlive.com/grpress/2008/01/poll_your_vote_in_republican_p.html
By the way, this is the second time I’ve posted this response and SOMEHOW, IT DISAPEARED. Whats going on Carl?
Yea, so the Democratic Party takes the position of not accepting any delegates from Michigan.
So, now the Daily Kos wants to play games – instead of taking on its own party. Maybe it is a ploy by the Daily Kos to get their candidate of choice, HRC. As they are banking on the Democratic Party to reverse their position and accept delegates!
If the Daily Kos truly had the countries best interest at heart, instead of their own agenda, they would be challenging the DNC to allow write in candidate names and accept the results at the convention.
Mom,
I agree with you, not with Willis at all. Huckabee is trying to play the “Poor, little persecuted lamb” when his tactics are far more undermining and manipulative. At least Romney has the tact to be outspoken with how he really feels about his opposition’s positions.
Willis,
I am Christian too and I know our country was founded on Christian traditions, but the separation of church and state are critical to freedom. If we elect a President because we think he’d make a great pastor it doesn’t really matter because he will not be acting as pastor – he will be busy dealing with economy, foreign policy, etc. It will not be his place to comment on what religion we should be a part of. We need someone who is an expert on running a country. This country will not be run by one religion alone, we must allow everyone the right to practice their own religion. And that means that if a Jewish presidential candidate (or heaven-forbid, a Mormon) has the skills to run the country, we elect him/her!
Go Guiliani and Romney!
Watcha talkin’ about Willis.
You seem to be either very ignorant of historical basis of the constitution, which quite frankly Mom doesn’t need her statements backed up from a Christian perspective, because her concerns are rooted in historical fact.
Yes, the founders were very deliberate in their attempt to separate church and state for the very specific reason of religious oppression. This wasn’t about Christians being persecuted by Muslims. This was about Christians being persecuted BY OTHER CHRISTIANS.
The founders were aware of the centuries of wars and death caused by the differences between Catholics and Protestants, and saw first hand what happens in governments where the separation doesn’t exist. The religion adopted by the government will persecute others, whether Christian or not, because of their conviction that their interpretation of the bible to be correct and that all others were blasphemous and heretical. And this is only one of the many problems with theocracies.
So, there is very much a long and brutal history that proves the inherent problems of theocratic governments. The Huckster doesn’t seem to recognize the importance of why the separation of church and state was important to the founders, and his history of demonizing the Mormon religion shows how much tolerance he has for those that practice a different religion. Fortunately, I believe that the majority of Americans recognize the importance of the separation of C&S, and I agree with Mom that Huckabee would go down in flames were he to win the nomination.
Your self serving biblical quotation “If you’re ashamed of me before man I’ll be ashamed of you before the Father” is nothing but irrelevant since Mom has not demonstrated at all that she’s ‘ashamed’ of Christ or Christianity. And regarding your proclamation that Jesus said the “Government will rest on His shoulders” also makes me scratch my head and wonder why you insist on bringing up points that do nothing to enhance your PoV. So what? What does Jesus saying that have anything to do with Huckabee? All the candidates (with the exception to some of Mitt) are Christian, so what exactly is your point?
At first I thought this was just another misguided attempt by some dysfunctional Democrat to manipulate the outcome but I am beginning to think there may be Romney money and promises being peddled to get people to cross the isle and vote. To me, I take this as either Romney trying to buy his way to a win or its an indicator they (Democrats) absolutely fear a McCain or Huckabee being chosen as the Republican nominee. I have much more confidence in the American public but very suspicious of ‘ole boy politics including influence peddling. I would love to know what “private conversations” this guy has had and to find out his motives.
Either way, I wish people would be honest and vote for the candidate of their choice and not because someone told them to. I’ve told my daughters that I would rather they not vote unless they study each candidate and know what they are voting for rather than just vote according to whom their friends vote for or whom their mother or I vote for.
After listening to the debates and post debate focus groups, and seeing how the media can attempt to alter viewer opinion just by the way they shape questions, to whom they direct the questions, and attempts to align post commentary pundits with aligned rhetoric; they now understand how the media and influence peddlers can play dirty tricks. They can see first-hand why voting is not just a right it’s a responsibility, one that shouldn’t be taken for granted and something that requires the utmost integrity throughout the election process.
This ploy by The Daily Kos should tell Republicans something. It should tell them (including hopefully the idiots who can stop jumping & down like circus monkeys screaming “AMNESTY!!!” long enough to hear it) that the one candidate the lefties fear the most in the general election is John McCain. They see that he is now leading in national polls of Republican voters and they know full well what a formidable opponent he would be for either Hillary or Obama.
The Dems worst nightmare is that McCain wins in both Michgian and South Carolina and then uses that momentum to lock down the Republican nomination on Super Tuesday. So, if they can conspire to help keep Mitt Romney in the game by winning in Michigan, it serves the dual purpose of blunting McCain’s momentum and prolonging the nomination fight.
Wise up, Republicans. McCain is the only guy you have who has a chance at winning in November. It’s time to line up behind him.
The Repubs have been doing the same thing in Michigan for years.
[In 1972, Republican voters in Michigan decided to make a little mischief, crossing over to vote in the open Democratic primary and voting for segregationist Democrat George Wallace, seriously embarrassing the state's Democrats. In fact, a third of the voters (PDF) in the Democratic primary were Republican crossover votes. In 1988, Republican voters again crossed over, helping Jesse Jackson win the Democratic primary, helping rack up big margins for Jackson in Republican precincts. (Michigan Republicans can clearly be counted on to practice the worst of racial politics.) In 1998, Republicans helped Jack Kevorkian's lawyer -- quack Geoffrey Feiger -- win his Democratic primary, thus guaranteeing their hold on the governor's mansion that year.
With a history of meddling in our primaries, why don't we try and return the favor.]
Daily Kos
Payback is a bitch!
McCain is so full of it. I’m tired of this media darling who stands on his record of not be conservative. Read this article
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjUzOGY0ODA1YzBmNjFhOWE5NWU0OTY5NTZiOGNhOGQ=
I’m sure that this isn’t part of McCain’s straight talk speech. In fact he deny’s and doesn’t want to talk about this stuff or deverts everything on how he’ll keep the country safe.
TheRepub,
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Why promote something that when you know it is flagrantly wrong; it’s that kind of thinking I despise regardless of party and it perpetuates that kind of myopic mentality. If someone crossed the line legitimately because they believed in what that person said or stood for and was truly backing them with those intentions I have no problem supporting their crossover.
Y,and Jane
the point wasn’t to say thee’s not a place for seperation of Church and state nor was it to demean Mom,it was to raise attention, that as a Christian there are priorities,and that God should be first…if I did a bad job with the comment that led you to think that I meant there should’nt be a place for the seperation of Church and state,then I hope this clears that up…The reference to the scripture was in the same light…
ANY VOTE FOR ROMNEY IS A VOTE TO STRENGTHEN OUR NATION. HE IS THE ONE CANDIDATE WITH THE SKILL TO TURN THE ECONOMY AROUND ROMNEY KNOWS HOW TO CREATE AND HOLD JOBS. ROMNEY IS A MAN OF IMPECCABLE CHARACTER WHO HAS STRONG FAMILY VALUES AND EXCELLENT LEADERSHIP SKILLS. ALL VOTES FOR ROMNEY ARE WELCOME.
I AM HORRIFIED BY THE EVANGELICAL THEOCRACY HUCKABEE AND HIS SUPPORTERS ARE PUSHING. Preserve Religious Freedom! Honor the separation of Church and State and NEVER VOTE FOR ANYONE WHO THREATENS THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM OF OTHERS. Every Candidate is a Christian! Every candidate believes in the Bible! BUT NO CANDIDATE HAS THE RIGHT TO PUSH HIS RELIGION ON OTHERS! We are electing a Commander in Chief, NOT a theologian in chief! Huckabee comes across as a good-old-boy, but he does not stand for personal freedom!
PELOSI, DEAN, REID, KENNEDY AND KERRY HAVE DESTROYED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. WE HAVE 50 STATES — NOT 48. I REALIZE PELOSI WANTS TO BE THE FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT BUT SHE SHOULD NOT DESTROY THE PARTY IN THE PROCESS!
Obama has had plenty of opportunities, during this race, AND during the past 20 years, to do what he did on April 29, but Rev. Wright had never put Obama down before. That made him willing to turn against the pastor, who — a few weeks ago Obama said that he could never turn from. Obama will say anything to get what he wants.
Because he has now disrespected Obama, Obama is now willing to confront Wright’s horrible remarks — one by one. HE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS AT LEAST A YEAR AGO! TOO LITTLE — TOO LATE.
Obama listened to and approved of Wright for 20 years. It’s impossible to believe that he never heard Wright’s radical rants. Obama is not that stupid. This is the very philosophy of the church that he has attended for years. If he has that much “blindness” on something as important as foundational philosophical beliefs of his own church, why would he think he could deal with crafty foreign leaders and run our country?
If you listen to Michelle Obama, it certainly sounds like she has heard and believed the teachings against America, that have been preached by her pastor. Don’t forget Obama’s ties to Ayers, Rezko, Farrakhan, Malcolm X, the Black Panthers, and many other anti-Americans and terrorists.
May God help us to have the grace and love to do what s right for our country — no matter what our skin color. Race is a factor — we are all members of the Human Race!
Hillary or McCain!