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Comment by John B, Redwood City, CA

when’s the next hiatus? I’ll come back then.

 
Comment by Citizen

I think once the dems figure out which one is the final candiate, McCain’s money will start coming in.

 
Comment by David

Hillary is at it again. She just said in a live video feed on the NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams that the Civil Rights movement and the 26th amendment gave her the right to vote as a young woman. Just check the facts. The 26th Amendment was signed by President Nixon on July 5, 1971. Ms. Clinton was born on October 26, 1947. At the time of the passage of the 26th Amendment she was 25 years old and had already been eligible to vote for four years. Can this woman ever tell the truth?

 
Comment by Rj

Who’s flip -floping now???

The OBAMA Advisers are singing different tune???

– “Adviser Colin Kahl wrote in a policy paper for the Center for a New American Security that the United States should transition to an “over-watch” force of between 60,000 and 80,000 troops by the end of 2010, according to an article Friday in the New York Sun.

That appears to be at odds with Obama’s public position of removing all combat brigades from the country within 16 months of taking office.

Kahl told the Sun his plan would still keep the U.S. “out of the lead” and mainly in a “support role.” He said the plan had nothing to do with the campaign.

The Obama campaign said in a statement: “The writing of Mr. Kahl, one of hundreds of outside advisers to the campaign, is not representative of Barack Obama’s consistent policy position on the Iraq war.”

But Kahl’s plan seems to jibe with other advisers’ statements that Obama’s withdrawal timetables are more a goal than a firm policy commitment.

Foreign policy adviser Susan Rice, for instance, told reporters in February that Obama’s plan to end the war in 2009 is not absolute, and that he reserves the right to revisit troop levels in Iraq upon taking the oath of office….”

SHOULD WE BELIEVE OBAMA WHEN HE SAID “THIS IS A WRONG WAR?” – AND PROMISING AMERICANS THAT HE WILL END IT? BUT WE ARE HEARING TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM HIS SURROGATES???

WHAT IS THIS??? SAYING AND PROMISING SOMETHING BUT PLANNING TO DO DIFFERENT???

WHAT KIND OF PRESIDENCY OBAMA WILL HAVE?

– IF HE WILL BE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE WHO IS PLANNING TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS THAN WHAT HE IS PROMISING TO AMERICAN PEOPLE???

– FLIP-FLOP!!! FLIP-FLOP!!! FLIP-FLOP!!! FLIP-FLOP!!! FLIP-FLOP!!! FLIP-FLOP!!! FLIP-FLOP!!!

 
Comment by Make Iran Glow

A Presidential Salary is $400,000K per year. Hillary’s salary as a law partner before her husband got into office was around $60,000K per year. Her salary as a First Lady didn’t exist since she wasn’t any longer a law partner in her firm and she had no salary as a first lady. Her salary per year as a US Senator is $165,200K per year. Bill, as Governor of Arkansas made about $75,000 per year. As President back when Bubba was in office, he got paid $200,000K plus $50,000K in a non-taxable expense account. Now out of office, the Clintons made since 2000 a wopping $109 Million dollars, at least, this is what they claim as they most likely made much more. On Hillary’s $165,200 dollar salary and Bubba’s retirement salary of maybe $100,000 per year, how do these two scum bags accumulate $109 million dollars? Can you say “pay offs for oil”, “pay offs from the Chinese for stolen technology and nuclear secrets” and other dirty money? You make your own assumptions.

 
Comment by Obama Resign

Just wanted to remind all of the Obama supporters:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare

 
Comment by Make Iran Glow

You’re good Obama Resigns.

 
Comment by Jim

Hillary and her supporters have been saying for weeks that Obama`s UNELECTABLE!…well, major polls are starting to show that Hillary, etc., is right!…

the arguement that Clinton, who`s won the all-important swing states, has a much better chance of winning the swing states which Dems. will need in the fall…is starting to prove true in polling data, especially in the 3 most important swing states!…

Clinton Leads 50 – 41 Among Pennsylvania Democrats; Quinnipiac University Poll Finds; Whites Give Clinton Lead In Key November Matchups: — PENNSYLVANIA Democrats: Clinton 50 – Obama 41; FLORIDA: Clinton 44 – McCain 42; McCain 46 – Obama 37; OHIO: Clinton 48 – McCain 39; Obama 43 – McCain 42

New York Sen. Hillary Clinton holds a 50 – 41 percent lead over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama among likely Pennsylvania Democratic primary voters and runs better against Arizona Sen. John McCain, the likely Republican nominee in Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio, according to a Quinnipiac University poll.

In general election match ups of the three largest and most important swing states in the Electoral College, the survey finds.
Florida: Clinton 44 percent – McCain 42 percent; McCain beats Obama 46 – 37 percent;
Ohio: Clinton beats McCain 48 – 39 percent; Obama gets 43 percent to McCain’s 42 percent;
Pennsylvania: Clinton tops McCain 48 – 40 percent; Obama leads McCain 43 – 39 percent.

The primary vote between Obama and Clinton splits sharply along racial lines, with her advantage coming from stronger support in every contest from white voters. For example, Clinton leads 59 – 34 percent among white Pennsylvania likely primary voters, while Obama leads 73 – 11 percent among black Democrats.

“When it comes to November, Sen. Hillary Clinton’s strength is a big edge over Sen. Barack Obama among white voters, who have not given a majority of their votes to a Democratic presidential nominee since Lyndon Johnson in 1964,” said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.”

More than a third of voters in the three states think Obama’s race is an advantage, more than twice the number who think it is a disadvantage. By contrast, roughly a quarter of voters say Clinton’s gender is an advantage, and about the same number think it is a disadvantage.

“Former Democratic vice presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro’s assertion that Obama’s race has helped his candidacy finds some support among the electorate,” said Brown.

“AT LEAST FOR NOW, SEN. CLINTON`S ARGUMENT THAT SHE IS THE BETTER GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDATE IN THESE KEY BATTLEGROUND STATES APPEARS TO HAVE SOME VALIDITY,” SAID BROWN. “IN THIS SURVEY, HER STRENGTH AMONG WHITE VOTERS IS WHY SHE RUNS BETTER AGAINST SEN. McCAIN THAN DOES SEN. OBAMA.

“Roughly one in five Democrats in the three states say they will vote for McCain against Obama, but less than 10 percent say they would vote for McCain over Clinton. Among white Democrats, 23 percent defect to McCain in a matchup with Obama, but only 11 percent defect when Clinton is the Democratic candidate.”

Pennsylvania

Among Pennsylvania Democrats, Clinton leads 54 – 37 percent with women, and ties Obama 46 – 46 percent with men. Obama leads 51 – 42 percent among voters under 45 years old, while Clinton leads 54 – 37 percent among voters over 45.

By a 48 – 42 percent margin, Pennsylvania registered voters have a favorable opinion of Clinton. Obama gets a 49 – 31 percent favorability and McCain gets 47 – 31 percent.

“Sen. Clinton’s imaginary snipers, Rev. Wright, Geraldine Ferraro, these events have taken only a small toll on Sen. Clinton’s lead in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary,” said Clay F. Richards, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

“Her strength is her clear advantage among white voters – blue collar whites, less educated whites, economically hurting whites, that group known famously as Reagan Democrats in the Keystone State. Obama is marshalling all his forces, but despite his eloquent dialogue on the race issue, Pennsylvania Democrats are unmoved. So Far.”

The economy is the most important issue in their vote, 46 percent of voters say, followed by 23 percent who list the war in Iraq and 14 percent who cite health care.

Looking at the most important quality in a candidate, 30 percent want a strong leader and 26 percent want someone who is trustworthy.

Being black is an advantage for Obama, 32 percent say, while 15 percent say it’s a disadvantage and 47 percent say it makes no difference.

Being a woman is an advantage for Clinton, 26 percent say, with 25 percent saying it’s a disadvantage and 45 percent saying it makes no difference.

Florida

In a general election match-up, McCain trails Clinton 44 – 42, too close to call, but handily defeats Obama 46 – 37 percent.

“The difference between Clinton and Obama in Florida is the white vote,” said Brown. “She gets 38 percent to 50 percent for McCain, but Obama loses to the Arizona senator 54 – 27 among white voters. If Obama does get the nomination, how he fares with whites will be crucial to his chances.”

The economy is the most important issue to Florida voters, 44 percent of voters say, followed by 19 percent who list the war in Iraq and 14 percent who cite health care.

Twenty-nine percent say a strong leader is the most important characteristic they seek in a president, while 27 percent say trustworthiness.

Being black is an advantage for Obama, 35 percent say, while 15 percent say it’s a disadvantage and 44 percent say it makes no difference.

Being a woman is an advantage for Clinton, 24 percent say, with 25 percent saying it’s a disadvantage and 47 percent saying it makes no difference.

Ohio

Clinton’s 48 – 39 percent lead over McCain puts her clearly out in front after several months of see-saw, too-close-to-call results.

Men split with 43 percent for McCain and 42 percent for Clinton, but women go with her 53 – 35 percent.

In an Obama-McCain matchup in Ohio, women back Obama 44 – 40 percent as men split, with 44 percent for McCain and 42 percent for Obama.

The economy is the most important issue in their vote, 44 percent of voters say, followed by 22 percent who list the war in Iraq and 17 percent who cite health care.

“The economic concerns of voters make Ohio a tougher challenge for McCain than has traditionally been the case for Republicans, who have never won the White House without carrying Ohio,” Brown said. “But Obama’s weakness among white men is an indication that he has not yet closed the sale among the lunch bucket brigade.”

Ohio voters split in the most important quality they want in a candidate, with 28 percent looking for someone trustworthy and 27 percent looking for a strong leader.

Being black is an advantage for Obama, 36 percent say, while 14 percent say it’s a disadvantage and 45 percent say it makes no difference.

Being a woman is an advantage for Clinton, 24 percent say, with 27 percent saying it’s a disadvantage and 46 percent saying it makes no difference.

From March 24 – 31, Quinnipiac University surveyed:
1,136 Florida voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.9 percent;
1,238 Ohio voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percent;
3,484 Pennsylvania voters with a margin of error of +/- 1.7 percent, including 1,549 Democratic likely voters, with a margin of error of +/- 2.5 percent.

QUESTION: Has there ever been a President who lost Penn., Ohio, and Flor.?

click here for more info, including easy-to-read tables, etc., which break all of this data down even more thoroughly!

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x2882.xml?ReleaseID=1164

 
Comment by Jim

Read OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES (Updated to reflect new dishonesties)

http://www.audacityofHypocrisy.com

“JUST LIES!!!”…no less than 66 lies as of March 31 2008…after the past couple days, it`s looks like a few more OBAMA WHOPPERS will have to be added…

1.) Selma Got Me Born – LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili – LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam – LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience – LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 – LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois – LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted – LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records – LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA – LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet – LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida – LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks – and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan – LIAR, no you didn’t.

33.) I won Nevada – LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All Votes To Count – LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want Americans To Decide – LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.

37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend – LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – LIAR, you take loads of it.

40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists – LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace – LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43.) I Inspire People With My Words – LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.

44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate – LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate – for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date – AGAIN.

46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.

47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail – LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone – LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.

49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country – LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support – LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.

51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company – LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.

52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair – LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!

53.)I Barely Know Rezko – Only 5 Billed Hours – LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.

54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly – LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it’s $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.

55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church – LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.

56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time – LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message – hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK – that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.

57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko – LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.

58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube – LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”

59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! – LIAR. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. PS – You had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clinton’s and McCain’s more than a year before!

60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning – LIAR. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. PS – He also seems to despise America.

61.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase – LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.

62.) I am very Anti-Terror – LIAR. [03/30/2008] One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS – Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto – guess you weren’t there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.

63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis – LIAR. [03/30/2008] You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash – Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST – Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?

64) I played greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion – LIAR – [03/31/2008] It was found that Obama — the day after sitting for the interview — filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey

65) I did NOT play the race card: – LIAR – [03/31/2008] Obama was the first to play the race card. According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the “black” candidate. Read more here

66) I did not take money from oil companies: – LIAR – [03/31/2008]
THE FACTS: True enough, Obama does not take money from oil companies. No candidate does. It is illegal for corporations to give money to politicians. Corporations, however, do have political action committees that collect voluntary donations from employees and then donate them to candidates. Obama doesn’t take money from PACs. He also doesn’t take money from lobbyists.

But he does accept money from executives and other employees of oil companies and two of his fundraisers are oil company executives. As of Feb. 29, Obama’s presidential campaign had received nearly $214,000 from oil and gas industry employees and their families, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. Clinton had received nearly $307,000 from industry workers and their families and Republican Sen. John McCain, the likely GOP presidential nominee, received nearly $394,000, according to the center’s totals.

Two of Obama’s fundraisers are Robert Cavnar, the chairman and chief executive of Houston-based Mission Resources Corp., and George Kaiser, the president and CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co.

 
Comment by molly

GO HILLARY !!
Thank You – Comment by Jim for some FACTS.
IF They count FL & MI – Hillary will win the popular vote. OBama knows he cannot block these votes as it will make him look bad – and- if he ever should win the nomination – he would never, never win the election without FL & MI. OBama will not win – his judgment & background are just far too questionable to be President of the UNITED States.

 
Comment by Jim

“Thank You – Comment by Jim for some FACTS…”

just trying to help get the truth out there…and i agree with what you stated too.

GO HILLARY!!!

 
Comment by Pamela

Not only was Sudam entrenched with terrorist, Sudam and his sons tortured and killed his people. God bless our troops for bringing down this tyrant and freeing his people .. I prey our men and women will be able to come home soon. They are fighting the evils of radical muslims, just as moderate mulims fight against also..they have came to America and we Americans need to wake up and stop degrading Bush and America for this fight and start worring over the radical muslims who hate us for our freedoms. America needs to start worring over Iran who will get that bomb.

FAS reports:
Iraqi Perspectives Project
Saddam and Terrorism:
Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi Documents (Redacted)
Institute for Defense Analyses

November 2007 (released March 2008)

Volume 1 examines the relationships between the regime of Saddam Hussein and terrorism in its local, regional, and global context. Volumes 2 through 4 contain the English translations and detailed summaries of the original Iraqi documents cited in Volume 1. Volume 5 contains additional background and supporting documents.

Volume 1 (46 MB PDF)
Volume 2 (23 MB PDF)

Volume 3 (34 MB PDF)

Volume 4 (39 MB PDF)

Volume 5 (43 MB PDF)

Abstract: Captured Iraqi documents have uncovered evidence that links the regime of Saddam Hussein to regional and global terrorism, including a variety of revolutionary, liberation, nationalist, and Islamic terrorist organizations. While these documents do not reveal direct coordination and assistance between the Saddam regime and the al Qaeda network, they do indicate that Saddam was willing to use, albeit cautiously, operatives affiliated with al Qaeda as long as Saddam could have these terrorist–operatives monitored closely. Because Saddam’s security organizations and Osama bin Laden’s terrorist network operated with similar aims (at least in the short term), considerable overlap was inevitable when monitoring, contacting, financing, and training the same outside groups. This created both the appearance of and, in some ways, a “de facto” link between the organizations. At times, these organizations would work together in pursuit of shared goals but still maintain their autonomy and independence because of innate caution and mutual distrust. Though the execution of Iraqi terror plots was not always successful, evidence shows that Saddam’s use of terrorist tactics and his support for terrorist groups remained strong up until the collapse of the regime.

Related Resources
DoD Report on Captured Iraqi Documents, Secrecy News, March 20, 2008

Maintained by Steven Aftergood

 
Comment by donna in nc

when john edwards finally decides to endorce Hillary, will she get the delegates that he has but no longer needs? if, and when, michigan gives hillary her 55% how many votes more will she have to obamas? same for florida please?

 
Comment by Obama Resign

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Comment by Jezabel

WOW!!! All of 54 people want to take back their vote.

 
Comment by patty

FACE IT OBAMA FOOLS…… OBAMA IS DONE, HE KNOWS IT AND YOU ALL KNOW IT!!!!!!

 
Comment by Nancy

Glad you’re back Carl.

 
Comment by twinoftwins

Boy you sure call everything a lie for Obama, even when they are not. Let see we could make a list of all of Hillary’s lies but that would take days to type up and no one has that kind of time. I really like this last one of a girl not having insurance and dying. True she died and I’m real sorry about that, but she did have insurance. Hillary just has to put her spin on everything all the time. Unless I see picture of her with Dr. King when she was 14, I do not believe her. She makes up stories all the time and tries to use people all the time. This person reads and studies and has seen to many lies from her to ever vote for her.

 
Comment by Jim

“…I really like this last one of a girl not having insurance and dying…”

FYI, Hillary was NOT lying…she was telling a story the EXACT same way it was told to her!

“…Hillary just has to put her spin on everything all the time…”

is this the best response you can give to BO`s 66 lies and counting?…if so, your response stinks and is extremely lame and lacking!…btw, Hillary doesn`t put her spin on everything all the time.

“…She makes up stories all the time and tries to use people all the time…”

this is even more Obama garbage due to a great lack of knowledge and, therefore, material!

 
Comment by Common Sense

I keep reading of all the lies told by HRC and BHO. The current liberal party is based upon all lies. They HAVE TO tell lies in order to get elected into POWER. If they told the real truth about their agenda, there would only be one party. You cannot argue with HRC, BHO or any lib because they do not debate with facts. They are afraid of facts. They are afraid to admit that most economic, gas, education, welfare, health care, unions, etc. problems were started with their nutty reasoning. Did I say a lib can reason? Silly me.

 
Comment by Jim

all these vets/military personel have endorsed Sen. Clinton…and such endorsements just keep coming in…this shows that they rightly don`t care about what Hillary`s views, etc., on the military may or may not have been in the past…what`s most important, as expressed in their testimonials, is what Clinton`s views are now…which they all show strong support for!

this is not meant to compare with or to McCain…it instead is meant to compare to Obama`s lousy record backed up by far fewer endorsements from our vets/military personel!…especially in light of Obama`s MORONIC statements today that he`s better than both McCain and Clinton on foreign policy and running our military…despite his almost NON-EXISTENT experience sitting down with foreign leaders…and the FACT that he`s only visited a scant few countries compared to McCain and Clinton!

Obama`s arrogance is so great that he can`t see his great ignorance by making such statements…a speech can only take you so far…my 12 yr.-old son gave a speech against the war too…yet, nobody`s saying that he`s got the necessary judgement to run the most powerful country on earth…and that he would be better at US foreign policy than both McCain and Clinton…and also better than both at running our military…the FACT is that he wouldn`t and neither would Obama on all counts!

in a word, Obama`s an IGNORAMUS!…running before he`s actually ready and about to go down as the worst President in history if elected…the military will not be run by this IDIOT!…that`s why he`s got so few vet/military endorsements…they see him for the arrogant, ignorant MORON that he is…especially when it comes to foreign policy and the military!

so yes…IF A DEM…our vets/military know who they want answering that phone at 3:00 AM…Most, ENDORSING A DEM, are endorsing Clinton.

Sen. Clinton now has the endorsement of over 2000 vets/military personel…now, Gen. Henry Shelton can be added to that long list…:One of our nation’s top military figures, General Shelton served two terms as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Presidents Clinton and George W. Bush. In announcing his endorsement, General Shelton said, “I’ve been with Senator Clinton when she has been with our military men and women. I know from those experiences that she understands the demands and sacrifice of military life. I am confident she will always put the readiness and well being of our troops first. She is ready to be Commander-in-Chief.”

General Shelton joins General John Shalikashvili as the second former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to have endorsed Senator Clinton. General Shelton is the fourth flag officer to endorse Senator Clinton this week.

TESTIMONIALS: Former Admirals, Generals and Senior Defense Officials on Why They Support Hillary Clinton to be the Next Commander-in-Chief

In a conference call with reporters, former Admirals, Generals, and senior defense officials gave their reasons for supporting Senator Clinton to be our next Commander-in-Chief.

Their testimonials highlight Senator Clinton’s qualifications, experience, and strength of character.

General Wesley Clark

“She has done her homework on national security and I know from my personal discussions with her and with many other friends that go in and brief her in her role in the Senate Armed Services Committee. She knows the facts, she knows the details, plus she has the big picture. She is a strategic thinker but she has the building blocks of the strategy in her personal knowledge. This is someone that when she is president our military is going to respect very highly, and when our Senior Officers brief her and meet with her they are going be very, very impressed by what she knows and the intelligence that she brings to these problems.”

Brigadier General John Watkins, Jr.

“As I think about the challenges facing the nation and having been in uniform for almost thirty years, worked with a number of presidents to include the last four, I can’t think of a single person – those generals included – who s better qualified to walk into the Oval Office than Hillary Clinton. I don’t make that statement very lightly. She is more qualified, in my view, than her husband Bill was when he entered the office. It is no surprise to me that you would have as many flag officers who serve this country and Secretaries of the Army and Navy who have served this country who would come out and support Hillary.”

Major General Paul Eaton

“On a personal note, I have a Special Forces Captain son and a Sergeant Paratrooper both in Afghanistan and I find Senator Clinton the perfect choice to be their Commander-in-Chief and to display the loyalty to command our armed forces and to rebuild them after the conflicts in which we are engaged right now.”

Lieutenant General Claudia Kennedy

“I support her because I trust her. I trust Hillary Clinton because of her judgment and her leadership. I have confidence that she is responsive to the needs of people. I believe that she understands leadership the way we do in the Army and that is that it’s about building connections and relationships and establishing guidance and leadership for others. I think she’ll rebuild relationships with other countries that have been suffering for the last seven or eight years; those relationships have really been strained beyond anything I would have anticipated. Another part of Hillary Clinton that I think is just tremendous is that she knows our reality. She is in touch with people, she listens to people. She decides what she believes about policy based on what’s right, she has integrity, and on what works, so she’s practical.”

Lieutenant General Frederick Vollrath

“I support Senator Clinton because I believe it’s time for change in our country, a new direction. And I know change carries with it risks. Senator Clinton is the candidate, in my opinion, with the proven experience that truly understands the risks and how to possibly cope with those risks to get the job done. We shouldn’t shirk from change because of the risks, but we absolutely have to have a leader with the proven experience. America, in the area of national defense, must be successful and Senator Clinton has that experience to create change, to understand the risk, and to get the job done.”

Admiral William Owens

“In this world that we face today, very complex as all of us know, I think experience will be really at a premium, especially at the level of the Commander-in-Chief. There’s not time to learn. The phone rings and you have to be ready. You have to ready with intuition, with experience and with skills. And this world will have the complexities that perhaps we’ve never before seen. I’ve been impressed with and admire Hillary Clinton for her work in the Senate. And we need people with great judgment. I think she brings the best of talent, intuition and experience to handle these unknown threats in the future.”

and a list of the most recent vets/military personel to endorse her:..todays, Hlllary got the endorsement of two distinguished, retired admirals, Vice Admiral Donald C. Arthur and Rear Admiral Stuart F. Platt. They join an eminent group of 30 retired admirals and generals who have endorsed Senator Clinton to be our nation’s next Commander-in-Chief…

and the list continues to grow:

General Wesley Clark
General John M. Shalikashvili
General Henry Hugh Shelton
General Johnnie E. Wilson
Admiral William Owens
Lt. Gen. Joe Ballard
Lt. Gen. Robert Gard
Lt. Gen. Claudia J. Kennedy
Lt. Gen. Donald L. Kerrick
Lt. Gen. Frederick E. Vollrath
Vice Admiral Donald C. Arthur
Vice Admiral Joseph A. Sestak
Major General Roger R. Blunt
Major General George A. Buskirk, Jr.
Major General Edward L. Correa, Jr.
Major General Paul D. Eaton
Major General Paul D. Monroe, Jr.
Major General Antonio M. Taguba
Rear Admiral Connie Mariano
Rear Admiral Stuart F. Platt
Rear Admiral Alan M. Steinman
Rear Admiral David Stone
Brigadier General Michael Dunn
Brigadier General Belisario Flores
Brigadier General Evelyn “Pat” Foote
Brigadier General Keith H. Kerr
Brigadier General Virgil A. Richard
Brigadier General Preston Taylor
Brigadier General John M. Watkins, Jr.
Brigadier General Jack Yeager

 
Comment by Jim

HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN ANNOUNCES PENNSYLVANIA VETERANS FOR HILLARY LEADERSHIP COMMITTEE

(PHILADELPHIA, PA) – The Clinton campaign in Pennsylvania announced the creation of the Veterans for Hillary Leadership Committee. The committee, made up of 21 distinguished veterans from the Keystone State, will spearhead the campaign’s efforts to reach out to Pennsylvania’s veterans and inform them about Hillary’s record of fighting for the men and women who have worn our nation’s uniform. Congressmen John Murtha and Joe Sestak, will co-chair the committee.

The committee was unveiled at a Veterans for Hillary event in Clifton Heights where Congressman Sestak, the highest ranking member of the military currently serving in the U.S. Congress, discussed Hillary Clinton’s readiness to be Commander in Chief on day one in the White House.

“Whether it is the national disgrace at Walter Reed or the failure to deal with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, the Bush Administration has consistently failed to take care of our veterans,” said Congressman John Murtha, who served in the Marine Corps for 37 years on active duty and in the reserves. “Hillary Clinton has not merely voiced support for our troops – she has fought to ensure troops returning from Iraq are screened for Traumatic Brain Injury and get the care they need. She has been a tremendous advocate for veterans in the Senate and will put their concerns front and center as President.”

In addition to the 19,000 men and women in the Pennsylvania National Guard, 5,400 Pennsylvanians join the Armed Forces every year. Senator Clinton led a bipartisan effort to ensure that Guard members and men and women in the reserves, who are shouldering much of the burden in the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, now have access to the same health care as active duty service-members.

“Hillary Clinton has demonstrated her commitment to our nation’s veterans time and again,” said Congressman Joe Sestak, who served in the Navy for over 30 years, retiring as a Rear Admiral. “She has worked tirelessly with Democrats and Republicans alike to ensure that we are taking care of those who have served our country, and hundreds of thousands of citizen soldiers in the National Guard and reserves now have health care because of her efforts.”

The Veterans for Hillary Leadership Committee includes:

Larry Babitts, Boiling Springs, US Army
on Byrd, Tobyhanna, US Army
Russell Canevari, Jessup, US Army
Ed Cemic, Sr., Johnstown, US Army
Kathy Cullinane, Scranton, USAF
Hal Donahue, Scranton, USAF
Thomas Dougherty, Dunmore, US Army
General Mike Dunn, Davidsville, US Army
Glen Embree, Mt. Pleasant Township, Navy
Greg Erosenko, Monroeville, US Army
Wy Gowell, Clark Summit, USAF
John Hugya, Hollsopple, USMC
Christin Joltes, Johnstown, USAF
Jim Kull, Uniondale, US Army
Joe Long, Bethlehem, USAF
William McCool, Levittown, Navy
Mike Miskell, Scranton, Navy
Phyllis Reinhardt, Scranton, US Army
General Gerald Sajer, East Berlin, US Army
Joseph Tully, Scranton, Navy
Jeffrey Voice, Philadelphia, US Army

 
Comment by Jim

Open Letter from Former Admirals and Generals Supporting Hillary Clinton

The challenges facing our nation today are among the most difficult of any time in our history. We are fighting wars on two fronts. Our credibility and leadership in the world have been eroded; our alliances are frayed; our armed forces are under strain.

As retired flag and general officers, we have devoted our lives to our country. We have hundreds of thousands of men and women on the front lines that have done the same. At this critical time in our nation’s history, our men and women in uniform deserve better than a presidential debate mired in trivia. The stakes are simply too high. As we are poised to choose our next Commander-in-Chief, we should not allow the media to divert attention from the real issues. What matters is who is ready and inspired to lead — who can be Commander-in -Chief on Day One.

It is imperative that our new President knows how and when to use force and diplomacy judiciously, to know how to deploy the olive branch and the arrow. The President needs to be ready to act swiftly and decisively in a crisis. And we think our next President must restore our moral authority and leadership around the world with the courage to meet with our adversaries when appropriate, and the wisdom to pursue diplomacy wisely.

It is especially important to understand the military and diplomatic challenges facing us in Iraq, and to end the Iraq war responsibly and safely. It is also important to rededicate ourselves to winning in Afghanistan, the forgotten front line in our fight against terrorism.

In these critical areas, it is clear to us that Senator Clinton is the candidate best qualified to be our nation’s next Commander-in-Chief.

We believe that she has real understanding of the military through her diligent service on the Senate Armed Services Committee. She has worked tirelessly to ensure our men and women in uniform are properly trained and equipped to be sent to battle. And she has fought to make certain that they are treated with dignity when they return home. We have personally and closely observed her respect for our armed forces, and she has earned their respect. And ours.

We hope that as a country, we will now turn our attention to the critical issues that will determine the future of our great nation.

 
Comment by Jim

Obama won`t win enough of the large Dem. states…and the gen. election because:

http://www.newsmax.com/ruddy/Why_the_GOP_Loves_Obama/2008/02/20/74275.html

1. Obama is the risky liberal. Every time the Democrats run a liberal like Obama, who the National Journal reports has a 100 percent liberal voting record, they lose.

Remember President McGovern, President Dukakis, President Kerry? Mrs. Clinton, however, has been quite clever in her record and rhetoric to come across as more moderate. In New York state she consistently won hardcore Republican districts in her two Senate races.

A McCain insider stated that Obama’s support — for example, for driver’s licenses for illegals — is worth at least “five percentage points in the election.” Mrs. Clinton was smart enough to back away from that hot-button issue.

2. Obama energizes Democratic voters. It’s been talked about quite a bit that Obama is a charismatic man who energizes young voters. But young voters notoriously don’t vote.

Remember all the hoopla in the last election with MTV and its “Vote or Die” campaign to bring out antiwar young voters for President Kerry?

Indeed, Obama, as the first African-American candidate of a major party, will energize black voters. But the black voters vote as a bloc for the Dem. candidate already?

What does Obama actually bring to the table for Democrats? It’s not clear. Mrs. Clinton, as her longtime critic Dick Morris likes to point out, would most assuredly energize women voters, especially millions of single moms that have never voted before.

3. Obama’s Latino problem. Clearly Latino or Hispanic voters are shaping up to be the key swing vote in this election, as they have been in recent elections. Some political pundits say George Bush’s come-from-behind win in 2004 was due to the solid 40 percent of Hispanics who voted for him, tipping the election in his favor.

This year was shaping up to be a terrible year for the GOP vis-à-vis Hispanic voters. But in primary after primary, Obama has had great difficulty winning over Latino voters.

Even in Illinois, where he beat Hillary to 2 to 1 in the primary, he only captured 52 percent of his home state’s Hispanic vote.

There are a variety of explanations for Obama’s Latino problem, including the belief there is an ethnic rivalry between Hispanics and blacks. Hispanics would like to see a Latino president in the White House, so the theory goes.

Mrs. Clinton, on the other hand, has done extremely well among Latino voters, perhaps owing to her husband’s likeability among these voters.

The recent primaries show Obama improving with Hispanic voters. Republicans, however, believe the problem with this key group will persist.

And then there is John McCain, who is the one Republican who is very well liked by Latino voters. He’s also a strong leader, which Hispanics respect. He’s pro-immigrant. As we all know, McCain joined Ted Kennedy in backing the recent immigration bill.

There’s little doubt Hillary could keep the Democratic stranglehold on Latino voters. Obama won’t.

4. Obama’s naiveté. Don’t forget, America is still in a war on terror. It is doubtful America will be tempted to go for an untested leader, no matter how charismatic he may be.

Some have drawn the comparison between Obama and JFK’s election win in 1960 during the height of the Cold War. But the Kennedy-Obama comparison is a weak one. For starters, John Kennedy was a war hero when he was elected president. Obama can make no such claim. Kennedy also had far more Washington experience in Congress and the Senate than Obama.

JFK also had his well-known father Joe at his side. And certain Democrats like to forget this, but Kennedy outflanked Nixon on defense issues, arguing that Nixon was too soft on communism. Obama’s dovish complaints about the Bush administration being too hawkish on terror won’t resonate with middle-of-the-road Independents/voters.

5. Obama will not be able to lay claim to the good economic times of the 1990s that Bill Clinton presided over, as Hillary can.

6. And Obama will be a nightmare for Democrats with swing voters in key states. Take for example the highly influential Cuban-American vote that Bill Clinton won in 1992 and 1996 — and was one of the key reasons George Bush beat Al Gore.

The Cuban vote has been moving into the Democratic column but they will not go for Obama because he has clearly stated he will open up relations with Castro.

Sen. Clinton’s announced Cuba policies take a hard line, which resonates with these voters.

7. And then there are the key Jewish communities in swing states like Florida and Ohio that are already deeply worried about electing Obama to the presidency.

Obama has talked openly about sitting down — without any preconditions — with Iran’s diabolical leader Ahmadinejad, who has referred to Israel as “bacteria” and has said in the past that the Jewish state is a “disgraceful blot” that should be “wiped off the map.”

With the McCain campaign blanketing key markets with TV ads featuring “independent Democrat” Sen. Joseph Lieberman, Obama will be in deep trouble.

8. The Rev. Wright: Need I say More!?

this is what i`m talking about when i say that Obama won`t beat McCain in enough of the large states in the gen. election…when Hillary would…because Obama won`t get enough of her supporters…including me in Ohio…

for ex., just using the Latino vote in the extremely important swing states such as Florida:

According to the latest poll avgs., Hillary`s up 37%, (67- 30), over Sen. McCain among Latino voters in Florida.

Otoh, the polls shows Sen. Obama behind Sen. McCain, among Latino voters, by 7%, (49-42), in Florida.

Florida is just one typical ex.

another ex…in Ohio, Hillary won a very impressive 67 percent of the white women, many single moms, voting in Ohio…Obama simply will NOT get this kind of support from woman in such important key swing states…and many of these voters were voting for the 1st time…some even admitted in exit polling that it was almost as much of an anti-Obama vote as a vote for Hillary…

so he`s not getting that high % of new voters which he thinks he is…in a recent Fox news report, many interviewed at Obama`s entertaining speeches, were actuallyClinton supporters just there for the show!

 
Comment by Jim

Hillary and her supporters have been saying for weeks that Obama`s UNELECTABLE!…well, in addition to the above post, major polls are starting to show that Hillary, etc., is right!…

the arguement that Clinton, who`s won the all-important swing states, has a much better chance of winning the swing states which Dems. will need in the fall…is starting to prove true in polling data, especially in the 3 most important swing states!…

Clinton Leads 50 – 41 Among Pennsylvania Democrats; Quinnipiac University Poll Finds; Whites Give Clinton Lead In Key November Matchups: — PENNSYLVANIA Democrats: Clinton 50 – Obama 41; FLORIDA: Clinton 44 – McCain 42; McCain 46 – Obama 37; OHIO: Clinton 48 – McCain 39; Obama 43 – McCain 42

New York Sen. Hillary Clinton holds a 50 – 41 percent lead over Illinois Sen. Barack Obama among likely Pennsylvania Democratic primary voters and runs better against Arizona Sen. John McCain, the likely Republican nominee in Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio, according to a Quinnipiac University poll.

In general election match ups of the three largest and most important swing states in the Electoral College, the survey finds.
Florida: Clinton 44 percent – McCain 42 percent; McCain beats Obama 46 – 37 percent;
Ohio: Clinton beats McCain 48 – 39 percent; Obama gets 43 percent to McCain’s 42 percent;
Pennsylvania: Clinton tops McCain 48 – 40 percent; Obama leads McCain 43 – 39 percent.

The primary vote between Obama and Clinton splits sharply along racial lines, with her advantage coming from stronger support in every contest from white voters. For example, Clinton leads 59 – 34 percent among white Pennsylvania likely primary voters, while Obama leads 73 – 11 percent among black Democrats.

“When it comes to November, Sen. Hillary Clinton’s strength is a big edge over Sen. Barack Obama among white voters, who have not given a majority of their votes to a Democratic presidential nominee since Lyndon Johnson in 1964,” said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.”

More than a third of voters in the three states think Obama’s race is an advantage, more than twice the number who think it is a disadvantage. By contrast, roughly a quarter of voters say Clinton’s gender is an advantage, and about the same number think it is a disadvantage.

“Former Democratic vice presidential nominee Geraldine Ferraro’s assertion that Obama’s race has helped his candidacy finds some support among the electorate,” said Brown.

“AT LEAST FOR NOW, SEN. CLINTON`S ARGUMENT THAT SHE IS THE BETTER GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDATE IN THESE KEY BATTLEGROUND STATES APPEARS TO HAVE SOME VALIDITY,” SAID BROWN. “IN THIS SURVEY, HER STRENGTH AMONG WHITE VOTERS IS WHY SHE RUNS BETTER AGAINST SEN. McCAIN THAN DOES SEN. OBAMA.

“Roughly one in five Democrats in the three states say they will vote for McCain against Obama, but less than 10 percent say they would vote for McCain over Clinton. Among white Democrats, 23 percent defect to McCain in a matchup with Obama, but only 11 percent defect when Clinton is the Democratic candidate.”

Pennsylvania

Among Pennsylvania Democrats, Clinton leads 54 – 37 percent with women, and ties Obama 46 – 46 percent with men. Obama leads 51 – 42 percent among voters under 45 years old, while Clinton leads 54 – 37 percent among voters over 45.

By a 48 – 42 percent margin, Pennsylvania registered voters have a favorable opinion of Clinton. Obama gets a 49 – 31 percent favorability and McCain gets 47 – 31 percent.

“Sen. Clinton’s imaginary snipers, Rev. Wright, Geraldine Ferraro, these events have taken only a small toll on Sen. Clinton’s lead in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary,” said Clay F. Richards, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

“Her strength is her clear advantage among white voters – blue collar whites, less educated whites, economically hurting whites, that group known famously as Reagan Democrats in the Keystone State. Obama is marshalling all his forces, but despite his eloquent dialogue on the race issue, Pennsylvania Democrats are unmoved. So Far.”

The economy is the most important issue in their vote, 46 percent of voters say, followed by 23 percent who list the war in Iraq and 14 percent who cite health care.

Looking at the most important quality in a candidate, 30 percent want a strong leader and 26 percent want someone who is trustworthy.

Being black is an advantage for Obama, 32 percent say, while 15 percent say it’s a disadvantage and 47 percent say it makes no difference.

Being a woman is an advantage for Clinton, 26 percent say, with 25 percent saying it’s a disadvantage and 45 percent saying it makes no difference.

Florida

In a general election match-up, McCain trails Clinton 44 – 42, too close to call, but handily defeats Obama 46 – 37 percent.

“The difference between Clinton and Obama in Florida is the white vote,” said Brown. “She gets 38 percent to 50 percent for McCain, but Obama loses to the Arizona senator 54 – 27 among white voters. If Obama does get the nomination, how he fares with whites will be crucial to his chances.”

The economy is the most important issue to Florida voters, 44 percent of voters say, followed by 19 percent who list the war in Iraq and 14 percent who cite health care.

Twenty-nine percent say a strong leader is the most important characteristic they seek in a president, while 27 percent say trustworthiness.

Being black is an advantage for Obama, 35 percent say, while 15 percent say it’s a disadvantage and 44 percent say it makes no difference.

Being a woman is an advantage for Clinton, 24 percent say, with 25 percent saying it’s a disadvantage and 47 percent saying it makes no difference.

Ohio

Clinton’s 48 – 39 percent lead over McCain puts her clearly out in front after several months of see-saw, too-close-to-call results.

Men split with 43 percent for McCain and 42 percent for Clinton, but women go with her 53 – 35 percent.

In an Obama-McCain matchup in Ohio, women back Obama 44 – 40 percent as men split, with 44 percent for McCain and 42 percent for Obama.

The economy is the most important issue in their vote, 44 percent of voters say, followed by 22 percent who list the war in Iraq and 17 percent who cite health care.

“The economic concerns of voters make Ohio a tougher challenge for McCain than has traditionally been the case for Republicans, who have never won the White House without carrying Ohio,” Brown said. “But Obama’s weakness among white men is an indication that he has not yet closed the sale among the lunch bucket brigade.”

Ohio voters split in the most important quality they want in a candidate, with 28 percent looking for someone trustworthy and 27 percent looking for a strong leader.

Being black is an advantage for Obama, 36 percent say, while 14 percent say it’s a disadvantage and 45 percent say it makes no difference.

Being a woman is an advantage for Clinton, 24 percent say, with 27 percent saying it’s a disadvantage and 46 percent saying it makes no difference.

From March 24 – 31, Quinnipiac University surveyed:
1,136 Florida voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.9 percent;
1,238 Ohio voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percent;
3,484 Pennsylvania voters with a margin of error of +/- 1.7 percent, including 1,549 Democratic likely voters, with a margin of error of +/- 2.5 percent.

QUESTION: Has there ever been a President who lost Penn., Ohio, and Flor.?

click here for more info, including easy-to-read tables, etc., which break all of this data down even more thoroughly!

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x2882.xml?ReleaseID=1164

 
Comment by Jim

Read OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES (Updated to reflect new dishonesties)

http://www.audacityofHypocrisy.com

“JUST LIES!!!”…no less than 66 lies as of March 31 2008…after the past couple days, it`s looks like a few more OBAMA WHOPPERS will have to be added…

1.) Selma Got Me Born – LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili – LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam – LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience – LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 – LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois – LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted – LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill – LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records – LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA – LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet – LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida – LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks – and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan – LIAR, no you didn’t.

33.) I won Nevada – LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All Votes To Count – LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want Americans To Decide – LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.

37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend – LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – LIAR, you take loads of it.

40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists – LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace – LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43.) I Inspire People With My Words – LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.

44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate – LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate – for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date – AGAIN.

46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.

47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail – LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone – LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.

49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country – LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support – LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.

51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company – LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.

52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair – LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!

53.)I Barely Know Rezko – Only 5 Billed Hours – LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.

54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly – LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it’s $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.

55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church – LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.

56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time – LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message – hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK – that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.

57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko – LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.

58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube – LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”

59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! – LIAR. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. PS – You had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clinton’s and McCain’s more than a year before!

60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning – LIAR. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. PS – He also seems to despise America.

61.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase – LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.

62.) I am very Anti-Terror – LIAR. [03/30/2008] One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS – Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto – guess you weren’t there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.

63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis – LIAR. [03/30/2008] You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash – Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST – Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?

64) I played greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion – LIAR – [03/31/2008] It was found that Obama — the day after sitting for the interview — filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey

65) I did NOT play the race card: – LIAR – [03/31/2008] Obama was the first to play the race card. According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the “black” candidate. Read more here

66) I did not take money from oil companies: – LIAR – [03/31/2008]
THE FACTS: True enough, Obama does not take money from oil companies. No candidate does. It is illegal for corporations to give money to politicians. Corporations, however, do have political action committees that collect voluntary donations from employees and then donate them to candidates. Obama doesn’t take money from PACs. He also doesn’t take money from lobbyists.

But he does accept money from executives and other employees of oil companies and two of his fundraisers are oil company executives. As of Feb. 29, Obama’s presidential campaign had received nearly $214,000 from oil and gas industry employees and their families, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. Clinton had received nearly $307,000 from industry workers and their families and Republican Sen. John McCain, the likely GOP presidential nominee, received nearly $394,000, according to the center’s totals.

Two of Obama’s fundraisers are Robert Cavnar, the chairman and chief executive of Houston-based Mission Resources Corp., and George Kaiser, the president and CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co.

 
Comment by Red

I ha*e NI*G*Rs
I ha*e NI*G*Rs
I ha*e NI*G*Rs
I ha*e NI*G*Rs
I ha*e NI*G*Rs
I ha*e NI*G*Rs
I ha*e NI*G*Rs
I ha*e NI*G*Rs

Sean Hannity and Hal Turner know how to hate NI*G*Rs. I watch him every night. Sometimes he brings a NI*G*R on his show and rips that blacky a new backside. When will those darkies learn that they will NEVER get anywhere as long as real WHITE Americans are still living here?

 
Comment by Holly

Are you here AC?

 
Comment by Smokies

Hello, out there!

 
Comment by Soon2B42

Anyone know where I can get my furniture fixed?

 
Comment by Soon2B42

Maybe someone with a name I’ve never heard before?

 
Comment by Grace831

Hello all, sems to be a dead blog….

 
Comment by Soon2B42

No, I’m here. Me, proud daddy.

 
Comment by Grace831

Well Soon2b42, how are things on your end since you seem to be the only one on here .

 
Comment by Soon2B42

I’m good, thanks! I was just watching a flick, but thought I’d get on the computer for a minute or two.

 
Comment by Grace831

It’s nice to meet you proud daddy, I think I know somone who could help you out with that furniture problem.

 
Comment by Grace831

Who are you pulling for in this election?

 
Comment by Soon2B42

Excellent! I feel much more comfortable in the chair in which I’m now sitting.
Tell me about yourself!

 
Comment by Soon2B42

I’m pulling for McCain (at this point).

 
Comment by Grace831

I grew up in a small town and I am a very proud American, hate all the bs that the dems have brought upon us.Especialy that one I can hardly pronounce his name.

 
Comment by Grace831

I think I will dump hillary and aboard the sailing ship.

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Hey Grace!
I hate to interrupt your conversation with Sooner, but what’s up?
I blogged with you a week or so ago.
Do you remember me?

 
Comment by Grace831

Yeah I think I do, whats up?

 
Comment by Grace831

Thats ok maybe he will join in.

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Just hanging out!
I’m at work now, but look forward to spending some time with my two-year old a little later this weekend.

 
Comment by Grace831

I just came back from Hawaii Mike, so you might have to refresh my memory.

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

We talked about your three kiddos and such…

 
Comment by Grace831

Oh, and were we polite with each other?

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Absolutely! We spoke about how we both love Jesus and supported Huckabee in the Republican primary.

 
Comment by Grace831

Great, now I know that it was not you whom bashed me for being Christian couln’t remember for sure.

 
Comment by Soon2B42

I’m starting to fade… Good night!

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Good night, Sooner!

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

That fella seemed nice enough…

 
Comment by Grace831

goodnight Soon2b42,

 
Comment by Grace831

I agree, oh well his lose.

 
Comment by Grace831

So mike whats been going on around here since i have been gone?

 
Comment by Grace831

brb my baby is crying..

 
Comment by Grace831
 
Comment by Grace831

Are you still there Mike?

 
Comment by Grace831 to Soon2b42

Hope we can talk later.

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Not a lot. I’m at work and decided to take a break for a few minutes…so, here I am!

Hope the baby girl’s okay!

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Comment by Grace831
April 12th, 2008 at 2:43 am

Are you still there Mike?

***

Yea, sorry! The computer wasn’t allowing me to submit a comment, so I had to turn off the internet and turn it back on…back on track now though.

 
Comment by Grace831 to Soon2b42

Driffted right back to sleep just needed to eat, thanks.

 
Comment by Grace831 to Soon2b42

Good, where were we?

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Sooner’s logged off I’m pretty sure. He said good night a little while ago.
I’m glad the little one’s okay!

 
Comment by Grace831

I’m lucky with her, my first daughter was up every hour of the night untill age 3, thought I was going to pull my hair out for lack of sleep, but things are different with each one.

 
Comment by Grace831
 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

I hear ya! Kids are a blessing, but they require lots of energy and attention. Worth every bit, though!

 
Comment by Grace831

Every bit, best thing the Lord ever put in my hands!

 
Comment by Grace831

Especially your first one you never forget that experience.

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Amen to that…

Speaking of ‘amen,’ the last time we blogged (some time a week or so ago) I mentioned to you that I’m a minister, a pastor. Did that surprise you?

 
Comment by Grace831

Not to say I love her more ,but I remember the firsts better than the others,she had all my attention for 5 years so we share more memorys at this point, I love all my children equally!!!!!!!!

 
Comment by Grace831

I do remember that and yes it surprised me you were two that day weren’t you?

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

I was, and I apologize for that. I appreciate your patience and understanding.

 
Comment by Grace831

Was there more #?

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

I’m not sure what you mean…
If I understand your question, the answer would be ‘no’ – there were just the old and the new.

 
Comment by Grace831

You don’t need to appolgize to me.

 
Comment by Grace831

Okay, keep going, I’m all ears….

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Thanks for understanding. From now on you’ll know who you’re dealing with. I do not like to be deceptive, it’s just that my twin brother has been harassing me lately.

 
Comment by Grace831

Are you who he claimes you are?

 
Comment by Grace831
 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

No, absolutely not!
Apparently, we have a neighbor who’s tangled with him.
But every time the neighbor throws eggs at my brother’s window, he blames me!

 
Comment by Grace831

I see, that makes me feel much better, I’m sorry I defended your twin.

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Clearly, the neighbor boy has no use for my bro.
As much as my bro. and I have argued (about the most fundamental matters),
I think he and the neighbor have gone at it even worse.

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

In any event, I’ve grown so tired of my twin, I refuse to share the same last name with him anymore…
I’m sure mom will understand. In fact, ‘mom’ is the one who’s convinced me to break ties with my twin.

 
Comment by Grace831

I agree, wish I had known earlier, so you really are a Pastor ?

 
Comment by Grace831

Smart lady, so are you just Mike now?

 
Comment by Grace831

You are too kind!!!!

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Just me! Yea, I’m a Pastor.
But that’s not my main claim to fame!
I’m most proud (grateful) to be called a Christian, then a husband/father, then an American.

 
Comment by Grace831

Amen to that!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Perhaps now that the mud has been washed away, we’ll be able to see more clearly from here on out.

 
Comment by Grace831

I think so. Is there any reason you told me and have you told anyone else ?

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

You seem as good as gold, Grace.
I’ve been wanting to shoot straight with you for quite some time
but couldn’t figure out how to pull it off until now.
Thanks for being so patient throughout the process.

 
Comment by Grace831

Again Mike you are to kind, I wanted to talk to you too, but I couln’t seem to find you..

 
Comment by Grace831

So glad we finally figured it out.

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

I’ve been trying to tell my twin for many, many weeks.
He is one stubborn dude!
He thinks I’m his neighbor.
I’ll never tell him (my bro.) who my ‘mom’ knows me to be because I don’t want him harassing me.
As long as my ‘mom’ keeps it to herself, he’ll never know.

It just occurred to me, Grace, that anyone reading this must think we’re nuts, or terrorists speaking in code, or Lord only knows what else!

 
Comment by Grace831

I doubt any one cares, with the mess they seem to be caught up in. But I promise your mom is a person of her word and would never give it with no meaning. You don’t have to worry about your mom any more, she has your back….

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Sweet! Thanks!
I know you must be getting tired, Grace, but thanks for taking the time to sort all of this out.
I need to sign off in a few minutes…Sunday’ll be here before you know it!
But, I’ll be happy to stay as long as you’d like,
if there are any loose ends you need tying up, or anything else you want to chat about.

 
Comment by Grace831

I can see us on the news now ,being bashed by the left wing, how we are terrorists talking in code, how funny. You don’t really think they would think somehting do you?

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Nah! I think they’d be much more likely to surmise that we are psychiatric patients enjoying a few minutes of computer time before our next therapy session. Are the walls in your room padded, too? Hee hee!

 
Comment by Grace831

No, mike I feel we are on the same page and we will talk again soon my 8 year old wants breakfast, quicker than I do so I do need to hit the sack, thanks for everything, and may the Lord watch over you and yours, and our great Country ALWAYS…..Amen

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Good night, Grace!
Blessings to you and your fine family!

 
Comment by Grace831

Glad to see you are a pastor with a sense of humor, very funny, goodnight, and God Bless

 
Comment by Grace831

How come you never asked what I was wearing or doing while we typed?

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Come again? Tell me!

 
Comment by Grace831
 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

The previous three posts (4:09, 4:12, and 4:25 a.m.) appear to have been entered by infiltrators –
folks other than Grace and I.
I’m not shocked, as someone was stalking us, as indicated by the posts (to that effect)
at this same time under the thread “Obama On Offense: I’m Out of Touch?” (in IMBED blogs) . . .

Comment by ‘Who gives a ….’
April 12th, 2008 at 4:05 am

“Great now bobbert suddenly appears out of nowhere just as both American Conservatives disappear.

So which one of them are you? Marvin? AC? Shelby? Untruth?

I can’t believe the SH!T going on here. Bunch of psychos! People claiming to be pastors just so they can get into someone’s pants while her husband is off fixing furniture but his evil twin brother is throwing rocks and eggs at his neighbor.

This country is going straight down the SH!TTER.”

_________________________________________________________________________

I’m guessing the guy who wrote this is ‘the evil twin,’ though I can’t be sure.
Throughout the night (on the same blog) I tried to separate myself from this cancerous Siamese
(identifying myself as Marvin).
Apparently, efforts to shake ‘the twin’ (by hiding in ‘the theatre’) were not completely successful
(as indicated by the aforementioned entry (from the other thread),
and as indicated by what appear to be (the three) false posts above).

You may have wondered, Grace, why I wanted to elude the cyber-stalkers…This is why!
It’s a shame a person cannot have an open dialogue on this site without other people infiltrating the conversation with entries intended to deceive and confuse.

I have (sincerely) enjoyed interacting with you (on these blogs), Grace.
I may try to shout ‘Howdy!’ on a future occasion under yet another anonymous name.
Sadly, it seems, if I say enough for you to know who I am,
I simultaneously reveal myself to the lurkers, as well.

If I am not able to identify myself in the future (or if you fail to detect my attempts to do so),
I pray God’s will bless you and your family in every way imaginable!

Abundant grace to you, Grace!

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Correction:

I pray God will bless you and your family in every way imaginable!

 
Comment by Who gives a .....

No- I am not your original ‘cyber-stalker’. I have no clue who Ed Feeney is, nor do I care.

But I am tired of the childish display that you and others were doing for months. And also tired of you luring this woman into your trap- go to a chat room, not a political blog.

The “stalking” to get here was not hard and I stumbled upon it when going to a site that is of interest to me where I then see things that would peek any law enforcement officer’s interest. I was led to believe that you were the real American Conservative and that Marvin was the fake. From your above post, it appears that you are saying you are Marvin. (So hard to tell since as you are chatting with Holly/Grace, you are simultaneously on other sites continuing your fight.)

If you are Marvin, you are an anti-Mormon bigot who has spewed countless hundreds of posts- most often as Shelby but under your own name and as American Conservative. And from the posts above I find out that you are claiming to be a pastor. How disgusting and vile can you be? You are exposed as the un-Christian bigot you are and yet you claim to be a man of God. I could care less if you don’t like Mormons, but quit spewing your crap under a bunch of names to make it look like that opinion is held by numerous evangelicals. Especially all the pornographic and vile statements against those you disagree with. You, sir, are legion- and as a pastor you should know what that means and be ashamed of yourself.

If, on the other hand, you are the “real” American Conservative who claimed to be Mormon and you are now identifying yourself as a pastor (which I assume you mean bishop, stake president or something else), then you had better turn in your temple card for being a liar and for conduct unbecoming a church official. And again, you are un-Christian.

The only thing you are trying to reveal to this poor confused woman (who is staying up all night neglecting her husband and children to “play” with you) is what a pig you are.

I don’t care who you really are or who you think you are. I can state with great certainty that I don’t belong to your religion or the one you try to bash- but I am a Christian and I find your behavior vile.

Be a man and stand up for what you believe, quit hiding behind all these other names, and QUIT TAKING UP OTHER’S TIME WITH YOUR CHILDISH BANTER ABOUT ED FEENEY AND AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE.

Better yet- pray to God that He will forgive you for your un-Christian attitude and behavior.

Holly/Grace- there are much better ways of finding religion.

 
Comment by Who gives a ...

By the way Holly/Grace,

I would avoid this guy at all costs. I will openly admit that I posted the last two comments from you above in an attempt to entrap this slime bag and show what it was he was really after.

I can promise that I am NOT the one who posted as Mike in South Florida at 4:12 AM.

So unless there was a fourth person involved- this “pastor” was going after just what I suspected he was. If this weren’t a political blog but something like MySpace where underage people hang out, we would be actively trying to find out who he really is.

He is warped, demented and a real deviant. He has established a pattern of lies and deceit and was trying to ensnare you. Notice how he always wanted more information from you than he was willing to give about himself.

 
Comment by Mike in South Florida

Wow! How sad!
I’m not sure who made ‘Who gives a ….’ the internet sheriff, but get off of your high horse, pal!
Your self-righteousness and inflated ego are offensive.

How do YOU know what MY motives are?
Is it possible (as was the case) that I was just innocently interacting via the internet with someone with whom I share a few things in common?
Obviously, you find that hard to imagine, but that says far more about YOU than it does me.

Further, you prove yourself to be a total hypocrite (though you vehemently accuse me of the same). Want evidence of your hypocrisy? . . .

First, you identify yourself as a Christian, and yet, you are on your computer on Sunday morning
(while the rest of us are in church worshipping).

Secondly, you reprimand people for discussing personal matters on this blog,
and yet involve yourself extensively in a conversation to which you were never invited.

Thirdly, you (falsely) accuse me of making entries under others’ names,
and yet admit doing exactly that with the comments YOU posted (in OUR names)
after we signed off for the night.

Fourthly, you yourself use vulgar language (as seen in your post on another thread –
a portion of which I’ve quoted above in my 4/12/08 at 3:39 post).

And lastly, (this point revealing not your hypocrisy, but your stupidity),
you accuse me (on the same previous post quoted above) of trying ‘to get into someone’s pants.’
I am a happily married and completely committed husband.
I have no interest in getting in anyone (but my own wife’s) pants.
Again, you reveal more about your own inclinations than you do about mine.
If I were interested in seducing a woman (and I am not),
I surely wouldn’t do it in a blog, or even over the internet at all.

Having said all of that, even if that were my intention
(which it was not – the thought never entered my mind ’til you mentioned it),
why would someone who calls himself ‘Who gives a ….’ give a rip?

Stay out of other people’s business.
It’s obvious you’re a loser and a loner (and probably a pervert).

I will say this for you, though, for a person who probably can’t bench press a broomstick,
you sure type tough!

 
Comment by Who gives a ...

Well, Pastor liar-

I did go to church today. You have no idea where I live or what time zone it is- so quite proving your ignorance. The time stamps on these blogs are always Eastern, no matter where the party is posting from.

I involved myself when I stumbled on your little game and found a way to not combat you in the childish way you have been doing for months but to once and for all point out your hypocrisy. If you ever post as AC, Shelby, Mike in South Florida, etc. again, I will merely point people to this site so they can see for themselves.

You just lied about making entries under others names. What do you call the whole Marvin/American Conservative ordeal that has been going on for months? Also, I admitted the two posts under her name- NOT the post in your name. You did that. You are just lying to make it look like you weren’t trying to find out. And your track record isn’t so good about telling the truth.

Yep, the language was unChristian. But sometimes in my line of work we have to take on different personalities to “fit in”. What is your excuse? In your line of work you are supposed to tell the truth. I can point to numerous Marvin or AC posts with rather vile language and accusations. So you are a liar and a hypocrite.

What I do reveal is that I really wish you would reveal yourself. One so that you would stop being the whimp that you are. Some big mega-pastor (what just like Ted Haggard, Oral Roberts, Jim Bakker and their associated scandals? Maybe even Mike Huckabee himself?) Two, this is not my jurisdiction, but I have lots of friends where it is theirs. You and Holly even admit that your actions would raise suspicions- and it sure did.

But, for being a pastor, something I have never claimed for myself- you are the loser, loner, pervert, and LIAR. You just lied numerous times in the response. I doubt you are a pastor- if you are, instead of feeding your flock you spend all day (and night) on the internet. You just said you never posted under other names- so unless you are admitting that you are in reality both ACs, you are caught lying. You know you made that post “Come again? Tell me!” but are now trying to weasel out of it.

Be a man- show your whole blog above to your wife. Let’s see what she thinks about you chatting with another woman privately until 4 in the morning (or are you lying about living in FL right now too?) Mine has already seen it and agrees with my actions.

You will obviously change your moniker- but you have such a distinctive style that I will find you again and point everyone here.

AMEN PASTOR.

 
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