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		<title>Sarah P. talks economics, politics and media to Carl&#8230;.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carl Cameron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[St. Louis, Missouri:
One day after Gov. Sarah Palin went toe to toe with Joe Biden in the only Vice Presidential debate, she sat down with Carl Cameron to talk about her previous interviews with Charles Gibson and Katie Couric, the financial bailout and her desire to continue to campaign in Michigan despite the McCain campaign&#8217;s [...]<br /><a href='http://cameron.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/03/sarah-p-talks-economics-politics-and-media-to-carl/'><img width='160' height='120' src='http://cdn.videos.wordpress.com/uv2rfDlP/palin-interview1.original.jpg' alt='' /></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=cameron.blogs.foxnews.com&blog=1603434&post=1358&subd=cameronscorner&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<p>One day after Gov. Sarah Palin went toe to toe with Joe Biden in the only Vice Presidential debate, she sat down with Carl Cameron to talk about her previous interviews with Charles Gibson and Katie Couric, the financial bailout and her desire to continue to campaign in Michigan despite the McCain campaign&#8217;s decision to pull out.</p>
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<p>Watch Special Report with Brit Hume for Carl&#8217;s complete take on today&#8217;s interview with the Govonor of Alaska.</p>
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		<title>John Talks about Sarah Palin and Debate Moderator, Gwen Ifil</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carl Cameron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Independence, MO:
Carl Cameron sat down with John McCain and talked about a wide range of issues including the financial bailout, Gov. Sarah Palin and PBS journalist and Vice Presidential Debate moderator, Gwen Ifil&#8230;.
On Gov. Palin qualifications for the second highest position in the land, John McCain was unequivocal and utterly confident in her capabilities and [...]<br /><a href='http://cameron.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/01/john-talks-about-sarah-palin-and-debate-moderator-gwen-ifil/'><img width='160' height='120' src='http://cdn.videos.wordpress.com/f5NhjNnT/mccain-intv-mccain-intv-independence-ms-copy-vlog.original.jpg' alt='' /></a><br /><a href='http://cameron.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/01/john-talks-about-sarah-palin-and-debate-moderator-gwen-ifil/'><img width='160' height='120' src='http://cdn.videos.wordpress.com/0pWpuz1I/quote-on-gwen-ifil-gwen-ifil-quote-vlog.original.jpg' alt='' /></a><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=cameron.blogs.foxnews.com&blog=1603434&post=1342&subd=cameronscorner&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Independence, MO:</p>
<p>Carl Cameron sat down with John McCain and talked about a wide range of issues including the financial bailout, Gov. Sarah Palin and PBS journalist and Vice Presidential Debate moderator, Gwen Ifil&#8230;.</p>
<p>On Gov. Palin qualifications for the second highest position in the land, John McCain was unequivocal and utterly confident in her capabilities and dismissed the &#8220;press attacks&#8221; as not worth responding to.</p>
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<p>McCain also said he was not concerned about Gwen Ifil&#8217;s ability to have a fair and objective debate tomorrow between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin following reports that she was writing a book to be released on Inauguration day called &#8220;The Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>McCain The Judicial Conservative</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carl Cameron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[John McCain came to Wake Forest University  in North Carolina hoping to grab a headline during Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama&#8217;s protracted duel.   He tried to gain the upper hand on a key presidential  issue: The picking of federal judges, 3 Supreme Court justices are over 70 years old and hundreds [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=cameron.blogs.foxnews.com&blog=1603434&post=1242&subd=cameronscorner&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>John McCain came to Wake Forest University  in North Carolina hoping to grab a headline during Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama&#8217;s protracted duel.   He tried to gain the upper hand on a key presidential  issue: The picking of federal judges, 3 Supreme Court justices are over 70 years old and hundreds of positions are open for federal judges.  The next president will likely have the ability to shape the bench.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Senators Obama and Clinton have very different ideas from my own.  They are both lawyers themselves, and don&#8217;t seem to mind at all when fundamental questions of social policy are preemptively decided by judges instead of by the people and their elected representatives&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>McCain will reaasure conservatives he&#8217;ll appoint strict constructionist judges who, as he says, will apply the constitution rather than create new law in their courts.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;My nominees will understand that there are clear limits to the scope of judicial power, and clear limits to the scope of federal power.&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Though McCain helped get Chief Justice John Roberts &amp; Justice Samuel Alito (both conservative!) confirmed, some Republicans didn&#8217;t like that he led a gang of 14 moderates to broker the deal.<br />
He calls Roberts and Alito models for the kind of judges he&#8217;d nominate, and  rips Clinton and Obama for having voted against both!</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Somehow, by Senator Obama&#8217;s standard, even Judge Roberts didn&#8217;t measure up. And neither did Justice Samuel Alito. Apparently, nobody quite fits the bill except for an elite group of activist judges, lawyers, and law professors who think they know wisdom when they see it &#8212; and they see it only in each other.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>While McCain expresses respect for the federal bench, his disdain for activist judges for being arrogant and dangerous is most pointed.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Some federal judges operate by fiat, shrugging off generations of legal wisdom and precedent while expecting their own opinions to go unquestioned.  Only their favorite precedents are to be considered &#8220;settled law,&#8221; and everything else is fair game.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>The next president could see as many as three (Stevens, Kennedy. Ginsburg) Supreme Court seats open up.</p></blockquote>
<p>Though abortion politics can dominate such debates, McCain makes no mention of it in his prepared remarks.   Like most Republicans, and unlike most Democrats,  he has long promised he won&#8217;t have any abortion  litmus test. He  challenges Democrats to stop making confirmation hearings a partisan game of obstructionism and gotcha.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Always hanging in the air over these tense confirmation battles is the suspicion that maybe, just maybe, a nominee for the Court will dare to be faithful to the clear intentions of the framers and to the actual meaning of the Constitution, and then no tactic of abuse or delay is out of bounds.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:left;">Fred Thompson makes his first appearance on the trail with McCain since Thompson dropped out of the race. Thompson served as sherpa to both Roberts and Alito during their confirmation hearings, accompanying both men around the Hill as they courted senate confirmation votes.</p>
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<p style="text-align:left;">Thompson has ruled out being both Vice President and Attorney General in a McCain administration.</p>
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		<title>McCain Rice Ticket?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carl Cameron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would perhaps seem logical on the surface to some.  With Democrats on the verge of making history with either an African American or a female nominee,  Secretary of State Condoleeza  Rice would certainly compliment the McCain candidacy.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>It would perhaps seem logical on the surface to some.  With Democrats on the verge of making history with either an African American or a female nominee,  Secretary of State Condoleeza  Rice would certainly compliment the McCain candidacy.</p>
<p>BUT! Senior McCain insiders say she has not until this point been under any serious consideration. That is not to say that she might not be soon.</p>
<p>It was reported recently that Rice attended  &#8220;The Wednesday Meeting&#8221; recently.  Lots of people go, its pretty much open to all.  It&#8217;s a regular weekly meeting held at conservative activist Grover Nordquist&#8217;s L Street offices in D.C.  Nordquist is head of Americans for Tax Reform (ATR) but he dabbles in all sorts of conservative politics.</p>
<p>Rice&#8217;s appearance at a recent meeting according to several sources was NOT about auditioning for McCain&#8217;s Veep.  BUT she sure is an intriguing prospect.  Would she make it hard for McCain to fight the democratic charges that he&#8217;s running for a  third Bush term?</p>
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		<title>OUCH! NoMittVP.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carl Cameron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Sean,
Some conservatives are working hard to kill the idea of a McCain/Mitt ticket.
A petition is circulating on line to squash the Romney for #2 notion.
The site is sponsored by &#8220;Government is not God, A Political Action Committee of Social Conservatives.&#8221;
You can find their webpage and a full page ad at Govnotgod.org
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Sorry Sean,</p>
<p>Some conservatives are working hard to kill the idea of a McCain/Mitt ticket.</p>
<p>A petition is circulating on line to squash the Romney for #2 notion.</p>
<p>The site is sponsored by &#8220;Government is not God, A Political Action Committee of Social Conservatives.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can find their webpage and a full page ad at Govnotgod.org</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Fla &amp; Mi Fix???</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very quietly and very delicately the Obama and Clinton campaigns have begun back channel communications to find a common ground that can break the stalemate over Florida and Michigan. 
  Discussions are in very early stages with more expected over the weekend. The players at the national and state parties (as well as in [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=cameron.blogs.foxnews.com&blog=1603434&post=1202&subd=cameronscorner&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Very quietly and very delicately the Obama and Clinton campaigns have begun back channel communications to find a common ground that can break the stalemate over Florida and Michigan. </p>
<p>  Discussions are in very early stages with more expected over the weekend. The players at the national and state parties (as well as in the state governments) understand that any fix will have to be acceptable to both candidates.</p>
<p> The governors, lawmakers and political community in both states (and nationally) are working on various possible fixes, but this is an attempt BY THE CAMPAIGNS to stakeout what both would find acceptable, in order to give the states a target to work toward.</p>
<p> According to insiders the basic requirements of both campaigns could be met with &#8220;firehouse primaries in both states, with mail-in ballots for those who can&#8217;t make it.&#8221; </p>
<p>A &#8220;firehouse primary&#8221; involves fewer voting places at regional locations.  Such an scenario would dramatically reduce costs.<br />
A &#8220;Do-Over&#8221; of  Florida&#8217;s primary would cost 20 million dollars, that is considered prohibitive.  </p>
<p>Though Michigan&#8217;s nominating contests are called caucuses, as a matter of practice it is a ballot like a primary not a caucus like the meetings that take place in Iowa or Texas.</p>
<p>Insiders estimate that &#8220;fire house primaries in both states, with mail-in ballots for those who can&#8217;t make it&#8221; would cost about $10 million dollars for both states.  Both campaigns could easily raise the money and keep it separate from regular campaign coffers.</p>
<p>The state political parties may also raise the money for party building.  The national parties could also kick in money for party building as well.  This would mean that the new votes would be paid for by the parties and the campaigns, not taxpayers.</p>
<p>Both campaigns agree it is unacceptable to NOT seat the Fla and Michigan delegates, recognizing that they are too influential in the general election and can&#8217;t be disenfranchised.</p>
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		<title>1191 STARTS McCAIN&#8217;S GENERAL CAMPAIGN EXPANSION</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[  Until he clinches the nomination John McCain&#8217;s campaign can&#8217;t formally discuss co-opting the Republican National Committee into his general election plan
Look for that to change tonight and the party takeover to begin immediately.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>  Until he clinches the nomination John McCain&#8217;s campaign can&#8217;t formally discuss co-opting the Republican National Committee into his general election plan</p>
<p>Look for that to change tonight and the party takeover to begin immediately.</p>
<p>If McCain goes over the top the campaign will move as soon as tomorrow  to refocus the RNC on McCain&#8217;s candidacy.  There is no shortage of emphasis on, or rather against, the democrats &#8211; the GOP national party has mountains of opposition research at the ready.   The BIGGER  task is getting the RNC synched up with McCain.</p>
<p>Unifying conservatives and the GOP is different from taking over the administration of the party apparatus.</p>
<p>The McCain camp will want his people in key positions.   The McCainiacs  will want to tailor and manage the party message to fit and compliment the candidate&#8217;s style and substance.</p>
<p>That is step one. Its starts Wednesday,  assuming McCain clinches Tuesday with Oh, TX, VT and RI.</p>
<p>Any talk of McCain making an early VP pick is wrong.   While the senator and insiders are happy to discuss prospects and ruminate aloud,  all that has been done is to have one aide  research the selection process other candidates have used.  Nothing more.</p>
<p>They have not even begun seriously considering who will head the search team.  They have not begun  compiling  the long and short lists. They have not discussed who will run the vetting process.</p>
<p>They have months to think it through and will unveil the selection only at the most opportune time possible.</p>
<p>The running mate is a major ace in the hole for presidential candidates and they never want to play them too soon.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Carl Cameron</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The March 4th primaries could put McCain over the top for the GOP nomination and Huckabee officially in second place for  the 2008 GOP race.
These are HISTORIC  achievements that to many seemed unimaginable last year. This VLOG and the FNC political unit however never once wrote off McCain last year when others did.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>The March 4th primaries could put McCain over the top for the GOP nomination and Huckabee officially in second place for  the 2008 GOP race.</p>
<p>These are HISTORIC  achievements that to many seemed unimaginable last year. This VLOG and the FNC political unit however never once wrote off McCain last year when others did.</p>
<p>And while Huckabee went virtually unnoticed until last years Ames strawpoll,  we identified him in January of 2007 as the darkhorse most likely to surprise.</p>
<p>Now McCain has 1014 delegates. He needs 177 to reach the needed 1191.</p>
<p>Huckabee has won 257 delegates. He needs 24 to best Mitt Romney who  won 280.</p>
<p>McCain is expected to take VT and RI outright but neither Texas nor Ohio are winner take all &#8211; they are awarded proportionally by state senate and congressional district respectively.  If Huckabee wins any combination of 8 Texas state senate or Ohio congressional districts he will win 24 delegates and thus go ahead of Romney.  Undisputed 2nd place.</p>
<p>Huckabee will make no definitive statements Tuesday night about the future of his campaign. But look for news on Thursday when he returns to Little Rock.  For weeks the Huckabee campaign has been doing an unofficial victory lap.  The governor and his staff are delighted by his success and acknowledged status as a  conservative leader who will now be well positioned to run again in the future.</p>
<p>Camp Huck is steering people away from veep speculation.  The governor doesn&#8217;t expect an offer and insiders say if it came he should reject it. They think Huckabee&#8217;s future prospects are stronger making his own way rather than playing #2 to  McCain.</p>
<p>McCain must first co-opt the RNC, and its a long complex process to take over the sprawling Bush admin national party apparatus.   They are for now merely studying how past VP&#8217;s have been chosen and discussing how to come up with their own process.</p>
<p>Republicans all over the country are emailing and calling the campaign with their runningmate advice.  While Huckabee would have us believe he is disinterested for now, that has never been the case for Mitt Romney.</p>
<p>Though Romney and McCain fought tooth and nail and grew legitimately angry with one another for exaggerated charges and counter charges throughout their year long battle, alot of republican grey beards think they make a good team on paper&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>McCain&#8217;s  Age Thing</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;I&#8217;m older than dirt, with more scars than Frankenstein&#8221;
John McCain (multiple locations and dates)
84 year old Former President George HW Bush endorsed 71 year old John McCain in Houston today.
In Africa 62 year old current President George W Bush volunteered to help McCain in any way he could.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m older than dirt, with more scars than Frankenstein&#8221;<br />
John McCain (multiple locations and dates)</p>
<p>84 year old Former President George HW Bush endorsed 71 year old John McCain in Houston today.<br />
In Africa 62 year old current President George W Bush volunteered to help McCain in any way he could.<br />
If 46 year old Barack Obama wins  the democratic nomination, the McCain campaign is keenly aware of the age factor.<br />
McCain is old enough to be Obama&#8217;s father.<br />
The image in a &#8220;change election&#8221; could be dicey for the McCainiacs.<br />
It is one of their MAJOR concerns.<br />
BUT McCain is a vigorous campaigner. He thrives on questions  about his stamina.<br />
McCain and his inner circle of 5 senior advisers huddled at the senators picturesque Sedona Az ranch this weekend.<br />
AGE was on the agenda.<br />
So was Obama&#8217;s liberalism&#8230;<br />
The freshman senator from Illinois scored the most liberal voting record in the Senate&#8230;watch McCain chalk that up to &#8220;Youthful inexperience.&#8221;</p>
<p>And where &#8220;change&#8221; rhetoric is concerned, McCain can argue that he has been going after sacred cows, riling the establishment,  and affecting reform since before Obama got out of school.</p>
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